Create Your Own Marching Shows

How Judging Works

What is the judging queue (pronounced "cue")?

  • When you publish a show, it waits in line to be rated by your fellow MML members.
  • The number is your position in line. #1 is the front of the line.
  • The purpose of judging is to...

  • Decide which shows will be featured on the front page.
  • Provide a little exposure for each show.
  • Give an appropriate XP reward for your contribution.
  • Filter out shows with inappropriate content.
  • The purpose of judging is NOT...

  • To make the judges feel important.

  • How can I qualify for full judging?

  • You are guaranteed a full round of votes by the community if:
    • RoboJudge gives your show more than 100 XP (see RoboJudge below)
    • You achieve the rank of Veteran (1000 XP)
    • You publish an indoor show
  • This limit is in place to streamline the judging process for everyone.

  • How long will it take?

  • There is no time limit -- when it receives a certain number of votes, it will leave the queue.
  • Most shows will be judged within a couple of hours.
  • If you publish late at night, it might not be done until the next morning.
  • During peak marching season (around October), it may take a few days.
  • How do I find out what my score is?

  • When judging ends, you'll see a message at the top of the screen.
  • Click the Results button to see what it received.
  • What determines the final score?

  • It is essentially the average of the votes cast by the judges.
  • The votes are adjusted based on various factors, including the rank of each judge.
  • Who is RoboJudge?

  • RoboJudge awards XP based on how much effort was put into the show.
  • He also gives design scores to shows that don't qualify for full community judging.
  • Unlike human judges, RoboJudge is totally objective and incapable of error.
  • How do I get more XP from RoboJudge?

  • You can usually get more XP by spending more time making sure each set is well-designed and is mostly free of collisions between marchers.

  • What do judges usually look for?

  • Realistic drill with clean transitions.
  • Forms that are pleasing to the eye and that are in proportion.
  • Controlling the pace to hold the viewer's attention.
  • Having a consistent motif or theme without being too predictable.
  • Use of halts to highlight "impact" sets.
  • Details like guard work and horn position.
  • An imaginative theme, title, and description.
  • Proper spelling and grammar in the title and description.
  • Originality.
  • What are some tricks to get a high score? (e.g. uniform color, publish time)

  • There are no "Jedi mind tricks" to magically affect the judges.
  • If you think you've found a some secret trend or conspiracy, unless you have mountains of data to support it, you're probably wrong.
  • How do I get a show featured on the front page?

  • Featured shows are mainly decided by the judges score.
  • Likes, etc. don't have any affect.
  • There is no guarantee that any show will be featured for any length of time.
  • It's all automatic. The admins do not add or remove shows.

  • What if someone judges it unfairly?

  • There are measures built into the system to automatically neutralize bad votes.
  • One or two bad votes won't ruin your score.
  • However, popular opinion will often differ from what you think you deserve.
  • What if I feel the judges aren't qualified to judge my show?

  • Everyone here is an avid fan or member of the marching arts.
  • Votes from experienced members, who have judged many shows, are weighted higher.
  • Most members can appreciate sophisticated shows as well as flashy or light-hearted shows.
  • We like to have variety on the front page, and that means getting a variety of opinions.
  • If you think everyone here is a simpleton that can't appreciate your brilliance, this isn't the place for you.
  • What if my score is too low?

  • That's life. Sometimes it's going to be lower than you expected (we tend to be biased about our own shows).
  • There's always fluctuation in the scores because each show is judged by a random group of members. In the long run, it works pretty well, but occasionally it can be disappointing.
  • Don't blame the community. A lot of it has to do with the way the algorithm works, and it's not really anyone's fault.
  • Do NOT complain about your results on the site.
  • But I got totally screwed!

  • Relax, it's just a game. If the scores are everything to you, this isn't the place for you.

  • How can I get more Likes?

  • Make better shows. Especially ones that are a fun to watch.
  • Let your friends know when you've published a show.
  • Thank people when they leave a nice comment.
  • Do NOT spam the forum, profiles, or show comments to promote your show.
  • How can I get feedback/criticism?

  • Criticism is NOT allowed in the show comments.
  • The ONLY place to give and ask for critical feedback is in the Critique forum.
  • There are just too many misunderstandings otherwise.
  • What if I get a bad comment?

  • You should always delete comments you don't like.
  • If it's inappropriate or insulting, do NOT retaliate or respond on their profile. Contact a Captain and we'll deal with it.
  • Believe it or not, a bad comment might not mean that they gave a bad score. (and vice versa)

  • How should I judge?

  • Give better shows a higher number. Use a wide range of scores.
  • It's ok to give the occasional 10. That doesn't mean it's "perfect" -- it just means it represents the very best of MML.
  • Everyone has their own criteria, but always be honest.
  • Voting dishonestly will result in a permanent ban (we track all votes, and are good at finding these things).
  • Giving out low votes will not increase your own show's chance of being featured.
  • Using another profile to vote for your own show won't work either.
  • You might not like a certain kind of show (e.g. indoor drum shows), but you must try to judge it fairly.
  • Don't collude with others -- we want your individual judgement, not influenced by someone else.
  • How do I spell "queue"?

  • Queue is spelled Q-U-E-U-E. That's two ue's.
  • Yes, it's weird, but please spell it correctly.
  • It is pronounced like "cue", but do not spell it that way.